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	<title>Comments on: [ERO] Goods News: Toranoana-limited official Ikkitousen Dragon Destiny &#8220;fan book&#8221; up for preorder</title>
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		<title>By: Sai no Japão &#8220;Fan Book&#8221; de Ikkitousen! &#171; Cavv-es</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sai no Japão &#8220;Fan Book&#8221; de Ikkitousen! &#171; Cavv-es</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Fonte:aqui e aqui. Baixe por torrent aqui. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Fonte:aqui e aqui. Baixe por torrent aqui. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Afterstrike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Afterstrike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 19:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>damm no oversea preorder...this suck hope someone buy it and scan it..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>damm no oversea preorder&#8230;this suck hope someone buy it and scan it..</p>
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		<title>By: Nirodha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nirodha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 18:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he counts 20% commission and that is it (no other costs). Shingo: you contact him and talk it over (your Japanese is better than mine ;) (don&#039;t speak the language at all)
Email: nba00671@nifty.ne.jp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he counts 20% commission and that is it (no other costs). Shingo: you contact him and talk it over (your Japanese is better than mine ;) (don&#8217;t speak the language at all)<br />
Email: <a href="mailto:nba00671@nifty.ne.jp">nba00671@nifty.ne.jp</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 02:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Nirodha
Thanks, that would be great! Especially if they charge less than other proxy services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Nirodha<br />
Thanks, that would be great! Especially if they charge less than other proxy services.</p>
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		<title>By: Nirodha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nirodha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 11:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shingo,
I have just ordered it from the site (via email). This is the first Toranoana-only book I have ordered. My contact informed me that it will appear on November 23 and he put a pre-order out for me. I will ask him if I can place the email address here because it is different from the site. Will get back to you on this. If I can help other non-Japanese readers I will</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shingo,<br />
I have just ordered it from the site (via email). This is the first Toranoana-only book I have ordered. My contact informed me that it will appear on November 23 and he put a pre-order out for me. I will ask him if I can place the email address here because it is different from the site. Will get back to you on this. If I can help other non-Japanese readers I will</p>
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		<title>By: L.C</title>
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		<dc:creator>L.C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O_O!!! Hoshi!!!  I&#039;m going to ask a friend to get this for me...Thanks for the news Shingo!  ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O_O!!! Hoshi!!!  I&#8217;m going to ask a friend to get this for me&#8230;Thanks for the news Shingo!  ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Shingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:37:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Nemo_N
I hope they continue in this vein as well! The only problem with the doujin distribution model though is that it&#039;s much more exclusive than using a wholesaler as middleman - harder (if not impossible) for retailers not connected to the original producer to get the item in stock, which sucks for those who can&#039;t access the producer&#039;s proprietary distribution channels.

&gt;&gt;DJnerate
It makes sense that those would be the stumbling blocks. It&#039;s been a bit of a dream of mine to try to sell myself to Toranoana as someone who could act as an intermediary and help their international sales arm get off the ground, but I doubt I have the skill set required... maybe some day. At the rate their business is expanding some kind of speculation in the international market seems inevitable, though.

&gt;&gt;Nirodha
Have you ordered Toranoana-only books from them in the past? I was under the impression that they only sold items on consignment from doujin circles at Comiket and not from retailers.

&gt;&gt;Manning
Nice! I just wish there was a more affordable way to get ahold of it; with all the proxy charges and shipping added in it&#039;s going to be a pretty expensive 36 page book. :(

&gt;&gt;Ialda, R8
I&#039;m sure a DD artbook (from a mainstream publisher) is only a matter of time, though I wonder if it will contain all of the limited edition art produced for the R2 DVD releases - seems like that wouldn&#039;t be fair to those who bought the DVDs, though it would be great for fans. I&#039;ll keep an eye out for any news on such a book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Nemo_N<br />
I hope they continue in this vein as well! The only problem with the doujin distribution model though is that it&#8217;s much more exclusive than using a wholesaler as middleman &#8211; harder (if not impossible) for retailers not connected to the original producer to get the item in stock, which sucks for those who can&#8217;t access the producer&#8217;s proprietary distribution channels.</p>
<p>>>DJnerate<br />
It makes sense that those would be the stumbling blocks. It&#8217;s been a bit of a dream of mine to try to sell myself to Toranoana as someone who could act as an intermediary and help their international sales arm get off the ground, but I doubt I have the skill set required&#8230; maybe some day. At the rate their business is expanding some kind of speculation in the international market seems inevitable, though.</p>
<p>>>Nirodha<br />
Have you ordered Toranoana-only books from them in the past? I was under the impression that they only sold items on consignment from doujin circles at Comiket and not from retailers.</p>
<p>>>Manning<br />
Nice! I just wish there was a more affordable way to get ahold of it; with all the proxy charges and shipping added in it&#8217;s going to be a pretty expensive 36 page book. :(</p>
<p>>>Ialda, R8<br />
I&#8217;m sure a DD artbook (from a mainstream publisher) is only a matter of time, though I wonder if it will contain all of the limited edition art produced for the R2 DVD releases &#8211; seems like that wouldn&#8217;t be fair to those who bought the DVDs, though it would be great for fans. I&#8217;ll keep an eye out for any news on such a book.</p>
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		<title>By: R8</title>
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		<dc:creator>R8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m on the same boat as ialda. i&#039;m still waiting for a official ikki dd artbook. but i&#039;ll probably get this as i&#039;m a fan of the series (preordered the treasure limited first day ^^;) and most of the artists, plus my wuv for kanu ^^.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m on the same boat as ialda. i&#8217;m still waiting for a official ikki dd artbook. but i&#8217;ll probably get this as i&#8217;m a fan of the series (preordered the treasure limited first day ^^;) and most of the artists, plus my wuv for kanu ^^.</p>
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		<title>By: Ialda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ialda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 13:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will try to get it, but I would have prefered an Ikkitousen DD art-book with all the illustrations from Rin-Shin ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will try to get it, but I would have prefered an Ikkitousen DD art-book with all the illustrations from Rin-Shin ^^</p>
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		<title>By: Manning</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manning</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 11:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like I&#039;ll probably order this. I&#039;m rather new to art books of sort, but i&#039;m really starting to become a fan of Ikkitousen on the whole (even though I havn&#039;t seen the anime yet), I have enough figures from the show and this book seems too juicy to pass up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like I&#8217;ll probably order this. I&#8217;m rather new to art books of sort, but i&#8217;m really starting to become a fan of Ikkitousen on the whole (even though I havn&#8217;t seen the anime yet), I have enough figures from the show and this book seems too juicy to pass up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nirodha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nirodha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 09:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks nice! May I suggest to contact http://www.comiketservice.sakura.ne.jp/. That is how I am going to order it.
They were very helpful with a Tony Take shipment to Holland.
Cheers,
Wim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks nice! May I suggest to contact <a href="http://www.comiketservice.sakura.ne.jp/" rel="nofollow">http://www.comiketservice.sakura.ne.jp/</a>. That is how I am going to order it.<br />
They were very helpful with a Tony Take shipment to Holland.<br />
Cheers,<br />
Wim</p>
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		<title>By: DJnerate</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJnerate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 06:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ordered on sight. Damn shipping prices are killer.

Some of us actually met the president of Tora no Ana around the beginning of this year through an acquaintance. From what I could gather, they were trying to expand their business internationally but were running into the same old problems, i.e. language, dealing with credit card fraud, customs, etc. the usual suspects. They were also trying to translate their website into as many languages as possible, but how that went, I&#039;m not too sure. So I doubt that they&#039;re shying away from the international market, which remains largely untapped.

Of course, this was back when my Japanese was still quite iffy, but that was the gist of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ordered on sight. Damn shipping prices are killer.</p>
<p>Some of us actually met the president of Tora no Ana around the beginning of this year through an acquaintance. From what I could gather, they were trying to expand their business internationally but were running into the same old problems, i.e. language, dealing with credit card fraud, customs, etc. the usual suspects. They were also trying to translate their website into as many languages as possible, but how that went, I&#8217;m not too sure. So I doubt that they&#8217;re shying away from the international market, which remains largely untapped.</p>
<p>Of course, this was back when my Japanese was still quite iffy, but that was the gist of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo_N</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nemo_N</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something I love about the doujinshi model(?); the &quot;crossovers&quot; of well-known artists and/or their creations.

For some reason, I find that not just interesting but utterly, utterly fun. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something I love about the doujinshi model(?); the &#8220;crossovers&#8221; of well-known artists and/or their creations.</p>
<p>For some reason, I find that not just interesting but utterly, utterly fun. :)</p>
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