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		<title>By: Dav’s &#38; $ŵĩţċħßłãđē’s &#38; Ήεłŵϊğ &#187; A law that I just can&#8217;t quite agree with&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dav’s &#38; $ŵĩţċħßłãđē’s &#38; Ήεłŵϊğ &#187; A law that I just can&#8217;t quite agree with&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Epic Win Blog &#187; Japanese Boy Tries to Kill Dad, Maebara Style</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epic Win Blog &#187; Japanese Boy Tries to Kill Dad, Maebara Style</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] we&#8217;ve seen new forms of media censorship and potential restrictive legislation in reaction to similar previous incidents. While I hope that [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Censorship - are the Japanese finally cracking down on hentai culture? &#124; Yuri to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito</title>
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		<dc:creator>Censorship - are the Japanese finally cracking down on hentai culture? &#124; Yuri to Boushi to Hon no Tabibito</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of you that read Shingo&#8217;s rantings on Heisei Democracy may have read this particular post a couple of weeks ago. This concerned me. I mean, I have been vaguely following the Lolicon debate [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of you that read Shingo&#8217;s rantings on Heisei Democracy may have read this particular post a couple of weeks ago. This concerned me. I mean, I have been vaguely following the Lolicon debate [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Yuribou</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuribou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 16:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aw crap. I shall wait for further news on the subject here ^_^ 

Thanks for the info</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw crap. I shall wait for further news on the subject here ^_^ </p>
<p>Thanks for the info</p>
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		<title>By: Shingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 01:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Yuribou
Word was going around the circles at Sunshine Creation 37 on October 9th that the next Futaket had been scheduled for May 4th of next year, and would be widely announced soon (referenced by a poster at the Futaket BBS &lt;a href=&quot;http://www2.ezbbs.net/02/hutaket/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).

However this was before the Taitou building crackdown, and seeing as Futaket has been held there for each of its first three (plus Hentai Matsuri) incarnations I&#039;m guessing the May event is on hold, if not canceled altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Yuribou<br />
Word was going around the circles at Sunshine Creation 37 on October 9th that the next Futaket had been scheduled for May 4th of next year, and would be widely announced soon (referenced by a poster at the Futaket BBS <a href="http://www2.ezbbs.net/02/hutaket/" rel="nofollow">here</a>).</p>
<p>However this was before the Taitou building crackdown, and seeing as Futaket has been held there for each of its first three (plus Hentai Matsuri) incarnations I&#8217;m guessing the May event is on hold, if not canceled altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuribou</title>
		<link>http://heiseidemocracy.com/2007/11/09/editors-desk-chronicling-the-erosion-of-2d-free-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-48642</link>
		<dc:creator>Yuribou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This really concerns me, since I was hoping to be in Japan next spring in time for the next Futaket... From this site I see that the dates are usually announced pretty early, but from what I read on here, the fact that there still isn&#039;t a site up for Futaket 4 or a date mentioned anywhere could be a symptom of this growing problem...

Does anyone on here know whether Futaket is scheduled for next year at all and if so what dates?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really concerns me, since I was hoping to be in Japan next spring in time for the next Futaket&#8230; From this site I see that the dates are usually announced pretty early, but from what I read on here, the fact that there still isn&#8217;t a site up for Futaket 4 or a date mentioned anywhere could be a symptom of this growing problem&#8230;</p>
<p>Does anyone on here know whether Futaket is scheduled for next year at all and if so what dates?</p>
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		<title>By: MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Good advice</title>
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		<dc:creator>MangaBlog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Good advice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 12:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] as usual or the beginning of a witch hunt? Heisei Democracy rounds up recent efforts to suppress &#8220;indecent&#8221; materials in Japan. (Via ComiPress, via [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nov. 13, 2007: The country in which Alan Moore lives</title>
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		<dc:creator>Journalista - the news weblog of The Comics Journal &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Nov. 13, 2007: The country in which Alan Moore lives</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hentai J-culture website Heisei Democracy presents a timeline of recent legal actions in Japan, leading to a climate of fear and censorship [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tyrenol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyrenol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or maybe it&#039;s about time everyone took some responsibility.

There&#039;s always going to be a bunch of knuckleheads ruining good times for everybody.  And people in the government needed to do SOMETHING less they want a bad reputation for being lazy and turning a blind eye.

Is it about &quot;free speech?&quot;  I think it&#039;s more about &quot;highly paid crybabies.&quot;

We must remember that Japan is one of those &quot;burnt-out societies;&quot; high unemployment, high drop-out rates from school, high suicide rate, everyone going to bars and anime to drown out their own collective misery.

And the real victim is creativity.  I&#039;ve been joking about the idea that &quot;Japan is a country full of ideas, all done the wrong way.&quot;  But Hideaki Anno (of Evangelion fame) had it right when he said that the whole society is stagnated.  They haven&#039;t gone over the fact that they lost WWII.

Less shows and art about loli?  (I, for one, am saddened that &quot;Boku no Pico&quot; had been de-fanged during its 3rd episode.)  Less shows about highly-detailed murder?  (When Kira Dies / Higurashi is my favorite show.)

I&#039;d like to more shows where the male lead is hardworking and slightly successful as oppose to being either someone&#039;s punching bag or nonexistent.  But then again, I live in America (California).  :(

So the question now will be:  Will the Japanese anime industry start doing more shows that feature guys with spine?  Or will they join with the rest of the moody otaku and go deeper into the dark of doing shows that end up being played between 1 and 6 in the morning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe it&#8217;s about time everyone took some responsibility.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s always going to be a bunch of knuckleheads ruining good times for everybody.  And people in the government needed to do SOMETHING less they want a bad reputation for being lazy and turning a blind eye.</p>
<p>Is it about &#8220;free speech?&#8221;  I think it&#8217;s more about &#8220;highly paid crybabies.&#8221;</p>
<p>We must remember that Japan is one of those &#8220;burnt-out societies;&#8221; high unemployment, high drop-out rates from school, high suicide rate, everyone going to bars and anime to drown out their own collective misery.</p>
<p>And the real victim is creativity.  I&#8217;ve been joking about the idea that &#8220;Japan is a country full of ideas, all done the wrong way.&#8221;  But Hideaki Anno (of Evangelion fame) had it right when he said that the whole society is stagnated.  They haven&#8217;t gone over the fact that they lost WWII.</p>
<p>Less shows and art about loli?  (I, for one, am saddened that &#8220;Boku no Pico&#8221; had been de-fanged during its 3rd episode.)  Less shows about highly-detailed murder?  (When Kira Dies / Higurashi is my favorite show.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to more shows where the male lead is hardworking and slightly successful as oppose to being either someone&#8217;s punching bag or nonexistent.  But then again, I live in America (California).  :(</p>
<p>So the question now will be:  Will the Japanese anime industry start doing more shows that feature guys with spine?  Or will they join with the rest of the moody otaku and go deeper into the dark of doing shows that end up being played between 1 and 6 in the morning?</p>
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		<title>By: FreedomMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>FreedomMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 05:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sad that hte japanese is cracking down on adult manga. They should leave it as it was. T_T Damn japanese government getting stricter. I just hope this doesn&#039;t effect the adult manga industry too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sad that hte japanese is cracking down on adult manga. They should leave it as it was. T_T Damn japanese government getting stricter. I just hope this doesn&#8217;t effect the adult manga industry too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Agent Wax</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agent Wax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 03:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shingo, what are the effects of this crackdown on life-action porn? One would surmise that ife-action versions are more &#039;realistic&#039; and therefore more likely to &#039;influence the audience&#039;.

The &#039;benefits&#039; of virtual media comes in the form that it is possible to do things in them which would be impossible or illegal in life-action, simply because of the risks involved to the actors. 

Given the mind-boggling variety of Japanese life-action porn cinema, up to and including more violent and misogynistic fetishes and bondage, it strikes me as incoherent that the virtual type would bear the brunt of the attacks. Especially since NO REAL PEOPLE WERE HURT, COERCED, OR OTHERWISE EXPLOITED in virtual porn, unlike in life-action cinema. At least not on screen, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shingo, what are the effects of this crackdown on life-action porn? One would surmise that ife-action versions are more &#8216;realistic&#8217; and therefore more likely to &#8216;influence the audience&#8217;.</p>
<p>The &#8216;benefits&#8217; of virtual media comes in the form that it is possible to do things in them which would be impossible or illegal in life-action, simply because of the risks involved to the actors. </p>
<p>Given the mind-boggling variety of Japanese life-action porn cinema, up to and including more violent and misogynistic fetishes and bondage, it strikes me as incoherent that the virtual type would bear the brunt of the attacks. Especially since NO REAL PEOPLE WERE HURT, COERCED, OR OTHERWISE EXPLOITED in virtual porn, unlike in life-action cinema. At least not on screen, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: DJnerate</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJnerate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 11:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>”Since japan did have elections recently.&quot;

It started long before the elections. Furthermore the DPJ had more than enough ammunition with the whole pension shebang.

This isn&#039;t about otaku versus the world, it&#039;s only about otaku versus the government. After all, the source of this alleged persecution wasn&#039;t from the grassroots level. To me, it all just seems like another case of the government needing some enemy to attack, and there&#039;s always the fallback plan i.e. blame porn, violence, other stuff outside the current social norm. I doubt that this sort of persecution (witch-hunting a phantom threat to public morals) is new, nor unique to Japan.

So what do otaku do? Time to stop fapping and start thinking. I for one, am not caring too much yet and will continue sleeping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>”Since japan did have elections recently.&#8221;</p>
<p>It started long before the elections. Furthermore the DPJ had more than enough ammunition with the whole pension shebang.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t about otaku versus the world, it&#8217;s only about otaku versus the government. After all, the source of this alleged persecution wasn&#8217;t from the grassroots level. To me, it all just seems like another case of the government needing some enemy to attack, and there&#8217;s always the fallback plan i.e. blame porn, violence, other stuff outside the current social norm. I doubt that this sort of persecution (witch-hunting a phantom threat to public morals) is new, nor unique to Japan.</p>
<p>So what do otaku do? Time to stop fapping and start thinking. I for one, am not caring too much yet and will continue sleeping.</p>
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		<title>By: Insectice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insectice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Nov 2007 10:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funniest thing is people&#039;s beliefs that removing lolicon from the market will see a drop in the number of pedophiles.

Pedophiles are pedophiles. The internet has a ten *billion* dollar (real) child pornography industry. Somehow I believe that if a pedophile, that is, you know, the people dangerous to children and the ones who support the exploitation of children through real child porn, will simply get the real deal and not some idealised and stylised drawings. They may have it on the side, but then again, many pedophiles have children of their own to support their habits. Getting rid of lolicon makes a statement, but in the end achieves nothing.

I&#039;ve never believed in censorship, but I believe in restriction. It seems strange, but maybe it&#039;s because of the collective society of Japan that you see these problems.

What I hate the most is that this will come back to bite us in the asses. The Japanese otaku community is pretty damn weak when it comes to sticking up for itself, and some stupid intrepid reporter or scholar looking to stir up shit will discover lolicon and equate anime and manga to pedophile material. So, I hope everyone enjoys pedo jokes.

If this happened in the West, it&#039;d probably be much worse, but at least there&#039;d be one crazy otaku activist nut or two dropping photocopied sheets of lolicon off some bridge in the city to make a statement. I mean, at least we&#039;d go out having fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest thing is people&#8217;s beliefs that removing lolicon from the market will see a drop in the number of pedophiles.</p>
<p>Pedophiles are pedophiles. The internet has a ten *billion* dollar (real) child pornography industry. Somehow I believe that if a pedophile, that is, you know, the people dangerous to children and the ones who support the exploitation of children through real child porn, will simply get the real deal and not some idealised and stylised drawings. They may have it on the side, but then again, many pedophiles have children of their own to support their habits. Getting rid of lolicon makes a statement, but in the end achieves nothing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never believed in censorship, but I believe in restriction. It seems strange, but maybe it&#8217;s because of the collective society of Japan that you see these problems.</p>
<p>What I hate the most is that this will come back to bite us in the asses. The Japanese otaku community is pretty damn weak when it comes to sticking up for itself, and some stupid intrepid reporter or scholar looking to stir up shit will discover lolicon and equate anime and manga to pedophile material. So, I hope everyone enjoys pedo jokes.</p>
<p>If this happened in the West, it&#8217;d probably be much worse, but at least there&#8217;d be one crazy otaku activist nut or two dropping photocopied sheets of lolicon off some bridge in the city to make a statement. I mean, at least we&#8217;d go out having fun.</p>
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		<title>By: mangafan</title>
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		<dc:creator>mangafan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering if some things couldnt be seen as overboard political cover versus actual harm done to anyone?

Since japan did have elections recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering if some things couldnt be seen as overboard political cover versus actual harm done to anyone?</p>
<p>Since japan did have elections recently.</p>
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		<title>By: uncensored</title>
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		<dc:creator>uncensored</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 21:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to live in Japan to see such things. Personal freedom is cut down in every country. By law its all democratic and personal freedom is the highest value, but every new law tells you what you don&#039;t allowed to do! It is easy to prohibit something. To remove the prohibition is realy hard. It takes years to go back to the level it was before. 

I think it is a bad thing when someone tries to say what you should do and what not. There have to be borders. But everyone sees things differently. You might love heavy metal but I don&#039;t! If heavy metal music would be baned I might be happy but you would say that this is wrong. But this is happening in Japan at the moment. People try to say other people what is right and whats wrong. They don&#039;t see that in all this years there was no problem with the situation. They try to use unrelated tragic incidents to force their thinking and moral onto others. &quot;I doesn&#039;t like those otaku crap at all! Now you see whats happened! We must keep people from becoming otakus!&quot;

Law should prevent people from hurting other people. It should not tell what to like and what not!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to live in Japan to see such things. Personal freedom is cut down in every country. By law its all democratic and personal freedom is the highest value, but every new law tells you what you don&#8217;t allowed to do! It is easy to prohibit something. To remove the prohibition is realy hard. It takes years to go back to the level it was before. </p>
<p>I think it is a bad thing when someone tries to say what you should do and what not. There have to be borders. But everyone sees things differently. You might love heavy metal but I don&#8217;t! If heavy metal music would be baned I might be happy but you would say that this is wrong. But this is happening in Japan at the moment. People try to say other people what is right and whats wrong. They don&#8217;t see that in all this years there was no problem with the situation. They try to use unrelated tragic incidents to force their thinking and moral onto others. &#8220;I doesn&#8217;t like those otaku crap at all! Now you see whats happened! We must keep people from becoming otakus!&#8221;</p>
<p>Law should prevent people from hurting other people. It should not tell what to like and what not!</p>
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