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	<title>Comments on: Editor&#8217;s Desk: The Animating Principle</title>
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		<title>By: joki</title>
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		<dc:creator>joki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mixi? also my first time hearing about it, i agree that a post about it would be very interesting</description>
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		<title>By: hl</title>
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		<dc:creator>hl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 08:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is a very impressive analysis of otaku sociality. thanks for the insight, and i hope you can find a way out of the vicious cycle of prosumerism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a very impressive analysis of otaku sociality. thanks for the insight, and i hope you can find a way out of the vicious cycle of prosumerism!</p>
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		<title>By: unangbangkay</title>
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		<dc:creator>unangbangkay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Sep 2006 08:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Omo (sounds like a laundry detergent!)

IT IS (in Viet Nam).</description>
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<p>IT IS (in Viet Nam).</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney2K</title>
		<link>http://heiseidemocracy.com/2006/09/01/editors-desk-the-animating-principle/comment-page-1/#comment-6660</link>
		<dc:creator>Sydney2K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 03:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Shingo

I guess that can be the topic of another column- I knew nothing of Mixi until this week, and I&#039;m interested in hearing how this site has changed otaku-dom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Shingo</p>
<p>I guess that can be the topic of another column- I knew nothing of Mixi until this week, and I&#8217;m interested in hearing how this site has changed otaku-dom.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard "Pocky" Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard "Pocky" Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 03:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Shingo

Sorry to hear that about your manken. I wonder how the ChibaDai Ani-Ken is doing... since Chiba is a big school, I&#039;d hope it&#039;d still be around.

I still remember my &#039;introduction&#039; to the club.

Clubmate A: &quot;ねえ、キームー！一番好きなときメモキャラって誰？&quot;

Me: &quot;・・・美緒です。&quot;

Clubmate B: &quot;なんで？&quot;

Me: &quot;メガネっ子が好きですから～ *^^*&quot;

Club: *laughter/&quot;one of us&quot; chanting

--

The keijiban lasted for a while (up until... 2002? 3?) from what I remember, but the &#039;zines died once MLs were easy to access.

And Mixi... damn, but all of my friends keep trying to get me to join it. &gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;Shingo</p>
<p>Sorry to hear that about your manken. I wonder how the ChibaDai Ani-Ken is doing&#8230; since Chiba is a big school, I&#8217;d hope it&#8217;d still be around.</p>
<p>I still remember my &#8216;introduction&#8217; to the club.</p>
<p>Clubmate A: &#8220;ねえ、キームー！一番好きなときメモキャラって誰？&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;・・・美緒です。&#8221;</p>
<p>Clubmate B: &#8220;なんで？&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;メガネっ子が好きですから～ *^^*&#8221;</p>
<p>Club: *laughter/&#8221;one of us&#8221; chanting</p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>The keijiban lasted for a while (up until&#8230; 2002? 3?) from what I remember, but the &#8216;zines died once MLs were easy to access.</p>
<p>And Mixi&#8230; damn, but all of my friends keep trying to get me to join it. &gt;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mixi is &lt;a href=&quot;http://mixi.jp/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mixi&lt;/a&gt;, Japan&#039;s biggest social networking site. It&#039;s spawned quite the following among otaku types over the past few years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mixi is <a href="http://mixi.jp/" rel="nofollow">Mixi</a>, Japan&#8217;s biggest social networking site. It&#8217;s spawned quite the following among otaku types over the past few years.</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney2K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydney2K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 12:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Shingo

I shudder to ask: what&#039;s Mixi?</description>
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<p>I shudder to ask: what&#8217;s Mixi?</p>
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		<title>By: Shingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;Garry

&lt;em&gt;&quot;How bout you, Shingo? You like playing the outsider over there, or do you wish you could break through?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Good question. There are advantages and disadvantages to being the perpetual outsider, as all foreigners here are to varying degrees... I spend my time trying to leverage the advantages and mitigate the disadvantages, and generally fit in to the extent possible. I guess my goal is to ultimately &quot;break through&quot;, but it&#039;s a difficult and complex path to tread, for me at least. Sometimes it seems nigh impossible, but perservere we must... This is an awfully vague reply, isn&#039;t it. Still trying to figure out a good (post-worthy) way to approach the issue...

&gt;&gt;rabidkimba, omo
I&#039;ve only been to one con in the US (ACen 2002) and that was with my college anime club, bearing out the whole &quot;come as a circle&quot; thing holding true across the Pacific. I can hardly claim to be an expert on US events based on that one experience, but it makes sense that most congoers wouldn&#039;t be there deliberately to get into strangers&#039; pants. That said, American events are certainly more oriented toward socialization than Japanese ones are. That fact alone may have more to do with the type of socialization that happens there than any inherent cultural norms.

&gt;&gt;hachi
Aha, so &lt;em&gt;that&#039;s&lt;/em&gt; where all those livejournal hits have been coming from. Quite handy, though I do wish it kept more of the original HD formatting of images and the like. :/

&gt;&gt;Sydney2K
From my experience (and from watching Comic Party) it seems that, prior to the recent explosion of social networking sites in Japan, most &quot;virtual&quot; communication leading up to events took the form of fan letters and emails to artists, and similar communication between artists. These would tend to lead to relationships based on the art being produced, and friendships based on respect and/or shared tastes... not a lot of coupling going on as a result, from what I&#039;ve seen. With the advent of Mixi, though, all bets are off...

&gt;&gt;Richard &quot;Pocky&quot; Kim
I&#039;m familiar with the &quot;haunting your old college circle&quot; phenomenon, though it seems the manken I was in while studying abroad was disbanded this year due to waning interest... ;_; I still have a couple of friends from it that I keep in touch with from time to time.

The keijiban and newsletter methods didn&#039;t cross my mind, though they make a lot of sense - I&#039;m reminded of methods used by bands to attract members in the case of the former, posting want ads in music supply and instrument stores. How I would have benifited from that sort of thing in my local hobby shop here... I think the internet may have complicated otaku interaction unnecessarily, what with everything anonymous these days.

I guess Mixi is a brutally effective replacement, but still.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>>>Garry</p>
<p><em>&#8220;How bout you, Shingo? You like playing the outsider over there, or do you wish you could break through?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Good question. There are advantages and disadvantages to being the perpetual outsider, as all foreigners here are to varying degrees&#8230; I spend my time trying to leverage the advantages and mitigate the disadvantages, and generally fit in to the extent possible. I guess my goal is to ultimately &#8220;break through&#8221;, but it&#8217;s a difficult and complex path to tread, for me at least. Sometimes it seems nigh impossible, but perservere we must&#8230; This is an awfully vague reply, isn&#8217;t it. Still trying to figure out a good (post-worthy) way to approach the issue&#8230;</p>
<p>>>rabidkimba, omo<br />
I&#8217;ve only been to one con in the US (ACen 2002) and that was with my college anime club, bearing out the whole &#8220;come as a circle&#8221; thing holding true across the Pacific. I can hardly claim to be an expert on US events based on that one experience, but it makes sense that most congoers wouldn&#8217;t be there deliberately to get into strangers&#8217; pants. That said, American events are certainly more oriented toward socialization than Japanese ones are. That fact alone may have more to do with the type of socialization that happens there than any inherent cultural norms.</p>
<p>>>hachi<br />
Aha, so <em>that&#8217;s</em> where all those livejournal hits have been coming from. Quite handy, though I do wish it kept more of the original HD formatting of images and the like. :/</p>
<p>>>Sydney2K<br />
From my experience (and from watching Comic Party) it seems that, prior to the recent explosion of social networking sites in Japan, most &#8220;virtual&#8221; communication leading up to events took the form of fan letters and emails to artists, and similar communication between artists. These would tend to lead to relationships based on the art being produced, and friendships based on respect and/or shared tastes&#8230; not a lot of coupling going on as a result, from what I&#8217;ve seen. With the advent of Mixi, though, all bets are off&#8230;</p>
<p>>>Richard &#8220;Pocky&#8221; Kim<br />
I&#8217;m familiar with the &#8220;haunting your old college circle&#8221; phenomenon, though it seems the manken I was in while studying abroad was disbanded this year due to waning interest&#8230; ;_; I still have a couple of friends from it that I keep in touch with from time to time.</p>
<p>The keijiban and newsletter methods didn&#8217;t cross my mind, though they make a lot of sense &#8211; I&#8217;m reminded of methods used by bands to attract members in the case of the former, posting want ads in music supply and instrument stores. How I would have benifited from that sort of thing in my local hobby shop here&#8230; I think the internet may have complicated otaku interaction unnecessarily, what with everything anonymous these days.</p>
<p>I guess Mixi is a brutally effective replacement, but still.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard "Pocky" Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard "Pocky" Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for how fans interacted before the internet, the ways my friends and I recall (yes, I&#039;m one of the older ones) are:

a) keijiban - bulletin boards: usually at Animate and Manga no Mori, people could ask around for like minded groups/people. They could also buy and sell stuff on these boards sometimes.

b) Newsletters/APAs: A monthly doujinshi that you and your friends would put together, usually just enough copies for the group, occasionally a few extra if you were looking to pick up new members. This was popular in the U.S. for a while, too.

c) Much like Madarame, people who graduated from college kept in contact with the members of their circles (hell, they still do, no matter what circle you are/were in), and often times these circles just evolved into fully-fledged social circles. (I can attribute many a late-night karaoke binge to this, when the seniors would come back and kidnap us at the Chiba U Ani-ken).

Man, I miss Japan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for how fans interacted before the internet, the ways my friends and I recall (yes, I&#8217;m one of the older ones) are:</p>
<p>a) keijiban &#8211; bulletin boards: usually at Animate and Manga no Mori, people could ask around for like minded groups/people. They could also buy and sell stuff on these boards sometimes.</p>
<p>b) Newsletters/APAs: A monthly doujinshi that you and your friends would put together, usually just enough copies for the group, occasionally a few extra if you were looking to pick up new members. This was popular in the U.S. for a while, too.</p>
<p>c) Much like Madarame, people who graduated from college kept in contact with the members of their circles (hell, they still do, no matter what circle you are/were in), and often times these circles just evolved into fully-fledged social circles. (I can attribute many a late-night karaoke binge to this, when the seniors would come back and kidnap us at the Chiba U Ani-ken).</p>
<p>Man, I miss Japan.</p>
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		<title>By: omo</title>
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		<dc:creator>omo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you just suggest...........

I understand what you are saying but LOL, don&#039;t suggest it like that. I concur that while you&#039;re at it, one form of &quot;consummation&quot; is no different than another, but now we&#039;re talking about something completely different :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you just suggest&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I understand what you are saying but LOL, don&#8217;t suggest it like that. I concur that while you&#8217;re at it, one form of &#8220;consummation&#8221; is no different than another, but now we&#8217;re talking about something completely different :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney2K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydney2K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 04:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; Omo (sounds like a laundry detergent!)

I think what you say is true, and certainly in the early years of US cons most groups attending cons did centre around the local anime clubs in your area- why go alone when you could go with like minded friends and enjoy the experience even more.

With the Inertnet though (sic), and especially with Instant Messaging, internet organised hobby groups, such as cosplay, anime music videos, even disorganised websites such as 4chan, and just through e-mails people are meeting each other at cons for the &quot;first time&quot;.  These prior relationships then are virtual, rather than personal.  

For example, a friend of mine who accompanied me to Anime Expo did so because she wanted to meet a certain &quot;cosplay idol&quot;, and because she knew I knew her, she wanted me to introduce her (which I did of course).  I jokingly described my accompanying her as just an excuse to pump me for my cosplay friends.

Cons are recognising the fact that a lot of singles are attending cons, with panels about how to be attractive to the opposite sex, and things like the dating panels.  A lot of people do go to cons to meet and make friends and some even hope for lasting relationships- and why not?  You are going to a gathering of people with like-minded interests.  But don&#039;t go for the cosplayers.  The good-looking ones are almost certainly already with partners (more often than not they&#039;re cosplayers too.)  Go for the congoers who aren&#039;t dressed up.  Some of them can be just as attractive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; Omo (sounds like a laundry detergent!)</p>
<p>I think what you say is true, and certainly in the early years of US cons most groups attending cons did centre around the local anime clubs in your area- why go alone when you could go with like minded friends and enjoy the experience even more.</p>
<p>With the Inertnet though (sic), and especially with Instant Messaging, internet organised hobby groups, such as cosplay, anime music videos, even disorganised websites such as 4chan, and just through e-mails people are meeting each other at cons for the &#8220;first time&#8221;.  These prior relationships then are virtual, rather than personal.  </p>
<p>For example, a friend of mine who accompanied me to Anime Expo did so because she wanted to meet a certain &#8220;cosplay idol&#8221;, and because she knew I knew her, she wanted me to introduce her (which I did of course).  I jokingly described my accompanying her as just an excuse to pump me for my cosplay friends.</p>
<p>Cons are recognising the fact that a lot of singles are attending cons, with panels about how to be attractive to the opposite sex, and things like the dating panels.  A lot of people do go to cons to meet and make friends and some even hope for lasting relationships- and why not?  You are going to a gathering of people with like-minded interests.  But don&#8217;t go for the cosplayers.  The good-looking ones are almost certainly already with partners (more often than not they&#8217;re cosplayers too.)  Go for the congoers who aren&#8217;t dressed up.  Some of them can be just as attractive.</p>
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		<title>By: hachi</title>
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		<dc:creator>hachi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Sep 2006 00:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;A. It’s a choice between that, livejournalesque entries&lt;/i&gt;...&quot;

I&#039;m already reading this on LiveJournal!

http://heiseidemocracy.livejournal.com/

:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>A. It’s a choice between that, livejournalesque entries</i>&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m already reading this on LiveJournal!</p>
<p><a href="http://heiseidemocracy.livejournal.com/" rel="nofollow">http://heiseidemocracy.livejournal.com/</a></p>
<p>:D</p>
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		<title>By: omo</title>
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		<dc:creator>omo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 14:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for underlying the subtle subtext between the characters&#039; relationships in Genshiken. I know it&#039;s there but I never looked at them like this. 

One thing I do have to say is that the relational aspect of American fandom isn&#039;t really all that different. A good amount of the hardcore con-going population do use cons to &quot;consummate&quot; their prior relationships. Some of the events that mark the American anime con tend to be just more social and shared (compared to buying and selling porn), but it is still somewhat superficial given the type of relationship the closely-knit otaku circles are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for underlying the subtle subtext between the characters&#8217; relationships in Genshiken. I know it&#8217;s there but I never looked at them like this. </p>
<p>One thing I do have to say is that the relational aspect of American fandom isn&#8217;t really all that different. A good amount of the hardcore con-going population do use cons to &#8220;consummate&#8221; their prior relationships. Some of the events that mark the American anime con tend to be just more social and shared (compared to buying and selling porn), but it is still somewhat superficial given the type of relationship the closely-knit otaku circles are.</p>
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		<title>By: rabidkimba</title>
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		<dc:creator>rabidkimba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, strangely enough, my social interaction at American anime cons sounds a lot like the interaction you describe earlier - bring some real life nerd friends and meet internet nerd friends- including people I see just at the artist&#039;s alley at the con. All those other people around melt into a sea of people I don&#039;t particularly pay any attention to, or, on occasion, people I roll my eyes at. Randomly meeting people at a con just seems off to me, almost doomed to failure, but that&#039;s probably just the antisocial hikky part of me talking. Or maybe it&#039;s that part that&#039;s gotten me hit on by 3-4 (I&#039;ve stopped keeping count) guys throughout the years.

One more class to go till Dragon*Con!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, strangely enough, my social interaction at American anime cons sounds a lot like the interaction you describe earlier &#8211; bring some real life nerd friends and meet internet nerd friends- including people I see just at the artist&#8217;s alley at the con. All those other people around melt into a sea of people I don&#8217;t particularly pay any attention to, or, on occasion, people I roll my eyes at. Randomly meeting people at a con just seems off to me, almost doomed to failure, but that&#8217;s probably just the antisocial hikky part of me talking. Or maybe it&#8217;s that part that&#8217;s gotten me hit on by 3-4 (I&#8217;ve stopped keeping count) guys throughout the years.</p>
<p>One more class to go till Dragon*Con!</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney2K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydney2K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re. Ohno and Tanaka and picking up at events: one of my expat friends is a big cosplayer, and was working as a teacher at a high school out in the Japanese alps.  Being Western, she was that much forward with the opposite sex.  Anyway, when we were palling out at Comiket one winter she met this guy (that most fangirls would squeal over.)  Anyway, she got his number, they got together, and, well, she had the barefaced audacity to IM me &quot;we had the best sex ever!&quot;  (You don&#039;t tell guys that!)  Even sent photos of them together (clothed, not in flagrante indelicato.)

She&#039;s now in New York :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re. Ohno and Tanaka and picking up at events: one of my expat friends is a big cosplayer, and was working as a teacher at a high school out in the Japanese alps.  Being Western, she was that much forward with the opposite sex.  Anyway, when we were palling out at Comiket one winter she met this guy (that most fangirls would squeal over.)  Anyway, she got his number, they got together, and, well, she had the barefaced audacity to IM me &#8220;we had the best sex ever!&#8221;  (You don&#8217;t tell guys that!)  Even sent photos of them together (clothed, not in flagrante indelicato.)</p>
<p>She&#8217;s now in New York :D</p>
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